tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post6040558486744003156..comments2023-09-10T03:33:19.319-04:00Comments on RANDOM THOUGHTS: Susan Atkins Died Peacefully Yesterday, -Unlike Her Victims in 1969Mycue23http://www.blogger.com/profile/07474424588090159340noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-46504433788044061332009-09-28T07:21:36.732-04:002009-09-28T07:21:36.732-04:00@Jack,
irony of ironies.
-It'll be Joe Girard...@Jack,<br />irony of ironies. <br />-It'll be Joe Girardi versus Joe Torre if they ultimately meet.<br />-SJSJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181694732531476160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-59434934546285910102009-09-28T07:20:30.767-04:002009-09-28T07:20:30.767-04:00@Vig,
-exactly. I don't trust anyone with anyt...@Vig,<br />-exactly. I don't trust anyone with anything permanent. But in the case of someone convicted on overwhleming evidence and testimony and their own confession, once they are sentenced, -end of story. <br />I don't want to eradicate the appeals process (Too many false convictions would go unchallenged), just parole for convicted violent offenders like Susan Atkins. Al-Megrahi is a case almost to ridiculous to discuss.SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181694732531476160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-54066445205544862792009-09-28T00:29:16.814-04:002009-09-28T00:29:16.814-04:00S.J., your Yanks havea date in Mannywood.S.J., your Yanks havea date in Mannywood.Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-44063334457198121082009-09-28T00:28:40.688-04:002009-09-28T00:28:40.688-04:00I'm glad you mentioned al Megrahi because I po...I'm glad you mentioned al Megrahi because I <a href="http://sozadee.blogspot.com/2009/08/who-let-abdel-baset-al-megrahi-go.html" rel="nofollow">posted on him</a>.<br /><br />Here's the deal. I am opposed to death sentences because I believe <a href="http://sozadee.blogspot.com/2006/04/flip-flopping-on-capital-punishment-how.html" rel="nofollow">the jury system is too unsystematic</a>. Short of taking a perp's life, keeping him locked up until death is the best alternative punishment. A life sentence should mean that the prisoner is assured of rotting to death in captivity. Let that punishment fit his crime.Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-68001141973802761052009-09-27T09:10:51.112-04:002009-09-27T09:10:51.112-04:00Thanks Oso,
just read it, may have to check out hi...Thanks Oso,<br />just read it, may have to check out his book.<br />I purposefully left the word "hippie" out of my piece and I'm glad Krassner's piece backs me up. Whatever anybody might think about hippies, Manson and his followers were not hippies. Their madness belongs to any time any culture sadly. To read the drug trafficking and mob angle on their activites from Krassner is all the more reason he and his followers should never see the light of day.<br />-SJSJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181694732531476160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-19889334459337245362009-09-27T01:14:48.342-04:002009-09-27T01:14:48.342-04:00here's something interesting I'd read the ...here's something interesting I'd read the other day re: Manson and the Sheriff's Dept looking the other way on Manson's activity.For what it's worth,Krassner's been around forever and was a good source back in the day.Hadn't read much from him in years.<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-krassner/the-mystery-behind-the-ma_b_255394.htmlOsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09513535195785731541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-78086363900008823222009-09-26T20:57:14.636-04:002009-09-26T20:57:14.636-04:00Thanks for the kind words Flora.
I had read about...Thanks for the kind words Flora.<br /><br />I had read about the sentence change in the Washington Post after writing this piece, ironic for a mudrderer to catch such a break.<br />-SJSJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181694732531476160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-36235589265247895842009-09-26T12:36:54.004-04:002009-09-26T12:36:54.004-04:00Great post!
FYI: Postmortum, Sharon's baby wa...Great post!<br /><br />FYI: Postmortum, Sharon's baby was named Paul after her father. <br /><br />Atkins was originally sentenced to death, but it was changed to life with the possibility of parole in '72 when Cali deemed the DP unconstitutional.Florahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00790089164146055068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-15067111652669651942009-09-26T01:11:56.126-04:002009-09-26T01:11:56.126-04:00@Will,
creepy picture huh? The more I read about t...@Will,<br />creepy picture huh? The more I read about the full, -albeit incarcerated- life Susan Atkins lived after everybody she had a hand in killing died, the sicker I got. I read a few published letters from Charles Manson to the warden complaining that most of his cable channles were blocked...<br /><br />CABLE?!!!<br /><br />There are people in America who work for a living and never hurt anybody, and they don't have cable. I mean WTF? Manson shouldn't have anything to stare at other than his prison bars.<br />-SJSJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181694732531476160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-74549610515000992532009-09-26T01:07:31.746-04:002009-09-26T01:07:31.746-04:00@Jack,
yes agreed my friend. Eye for eye approache...@Jack,<br />yes agreed my friend. Eye for eye approaches don't really ameliorate the harm. We have to take solace in these sentences as future prevention, a way to keep a murderer from doing it again. It's a better assurance than hoping they mean it when they say they are born again.<br />By the way, the new Yankee stadium has a free museum with life sized statues of Don Larsen and Yogi Berra in mid pitch, laid out in the exact distance from the mound to the plate. It's truly a remarkable thing to look at. I sat in the bleachers and was moved to tears as I watched it all. -and we beat Boston.<br />-SJSJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181694732531476160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-25143718320379061562009-09-26T01:01:14.820-04:002009-09-26T01:01:14.820-04:00Hello all,
just got back from Yankee Stadium a few...Hello all,<br />just got back from Yankee Stadium a few mintures ago, my first trip to the new digs.<br /><br />@Oso,<br />I think most people would agree if they look at the situation from all sides, but especially in consideration of the fact that unlike robbery or other crimes, murder and other forms of violence leave irrevocable harm or worse; so I think the sentences should be as permanent as the crimes. I don't want to even hear about someone like Bernie Madoff ever being parolled.<br />-SJSJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181694732531476160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-6193619926867211312009-09-26T00:21:55.935-04:002009-09-26T00:21:55.935-04:00Look at that disgusting smile on her face in court...Look at that disgusting smile on her face in court. Yikes, huh?Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-9363727221457404562009-09-25T23:54:16.109-04:002009-09-25T23:54:16.109-04:00Just the kind of thoughtful and well-reasoned post...Just the kind of thoughtful and well-reasoned post I would expect from you on such a subject, SJ---great job. These senseless murders show how sometimes there is no justice in this world.Yes, Atkins, Berkowitz, and many others did jail time, but that pales in comparison with the severity of their crime. <br /><br />Proof this is an oft-unjust world lies in the fact that paranoid, greedy, profiteering, and egotistical warmongers like Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and George W. Bush walk around freely and unpunished, though guilty of war crimes that cost nearly 4,000 young American lives and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi lives. Whoever said war is glorious was crazy; it is nothing other than mass murder.Jack Jodellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165430903903838990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31964974.post-78425002474792973182009-09-25T20:16:45.099-04:002009-09-25T20:16:45.099-04:00SJ,
can't disagree on anything there.
I also a...SJ,<br />can't disagree on anything there.<br />I also am skeptical of those in prison who commit horrible crimes then find religion.It would seem to me that if they truly found belief in God they'd still be shamed by what they did and not expect to get out now.Osohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09513535195785731541noreply@blogger.com